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“When You Mix Science and Politics, Politics Wins”: Dr. Anthony Fauci on The Good Government Show

For more than half a century, Anthony Fauci stood at the center of the world’s biggest public‑health battles—often unseen, often unthanked, and frequently misunderstood. On The Good Government Show, Fauci sits down with host David Martin for a rare, candid conversation that goes far beyond headlines and soundbites.

From HIV/AIDS to Ebola, H1N1, and COVID‑19, Fauci reflects on a career defined not by politics, but by data, evidence, and an unshakeable belief in public service. He explains how a single early decision—to join the U.S. Public Health Service during the Vietnam War—set him on a path that would save tens of millions of lives worldwide. That journey ultimately earned him the Presidential Medal of Freedom for helping architect PEPFAR, the global AIDS relief program responsible for saving more than 25 million lives.

But this conversation isn’t a victory lap. Fauci speaks with urgency—and concern—about the current state of public health. “Disinformation and misinformation are the enemy of public health,” he says bluntly, warning that politicized science and rising anti‑vaccine sentiment are already costing lives. Measles outbreaks. Eroded trust. Institutions under pressure. The consequences, he makes clear, are real and measurable.

At the same time, Fauci offers clarity where confusion reigns. He dismantles the myth that science “flip‑flops,” explaining instead that science is a self‑correcting process—one that adapts as new evidence emerges. Masks. Vaccines. Public guidance. Change, he argues, isn’t weakness; it’s the obligation of responsible science.

Perhaps most striking is Fauci’s humility. Despite decades at the NIH, 38 years leading NIAID, and global recognition, he rejects the idea of personal heroism. “Government is about serving the people,” he says simply. Good government, in his view, isn’t ideological—it’s functional, evidence‑based, and focused on reducing human suffering.

This episode is not about reliving the pandemic. It’s about understanding what public service looks like when it’s done right—and what’s at stake when we ignore expertise. Whether you admire Fauci, question him, or think you already know his story, this conversation will change how you see science, government, and the quiet work that protects us all.

Listen now to Dr. Anthony Fauci on The Good Government Show — and hear what public service sounds like when politics steps aside and facts lead the way.